Telephone numbers
There are companies out there who, having obtained your telephone number, will either
print it themselves on address labels or give consent for others to do so. UNACCEPTABLE
! more so if the numbers are Un-Listed.
To stop this practice, and under the Data Protections act, informing the companies over the telephone is not
good enough. I agree. So, how do we stop this practice. First, stop ordering items verbally and do it in writing.
In the letter/Order always state the folowing....
The information within this letter/Order is not for circulation in ANY Form. This
includes written details of telephone numbers on or within Address Labels or in plain view to any other party,
period.
If you find information has either been printed or circulated, you now have written proof. (Verbal contracts are not worth anything ! )
Contact the Data Registrar on 01625
545745 and get a complaints form. Remember to keep all written comunications. You will need these.
Contact your local MP and get him or her to do something about it.
Under the Data Protections Act almost everyone has to be registerd. The documentation states quite clearly that if information is to be distributed, and that includes selling information, then those registered must state that fact and give the customer the opportunity to either allow this or not. The assumption that customer automatically gives this consent does not arise and cannot be assumed.
Private Residential Lines with Fax Machines.
If you find that companies are sending you unsolisited messages etc, you can stop this. Under the Data Protections
Act all you have to do is write to them and get them to remove all traces of your number from any digital/magnetic
storage devices. I suggest sending the letter by Recorded Delivery and not put your name and address on it, just
the post code. Keep a copy of the letter or letters. If they continue to send you faxes, contact the Data Registrar
on 01625-545745 and complain. OFTEL can stop these companies and individuals BY LAW. Get as much information on
the callers and then write or call OFTEL to get it stopped. Oftels details are at the end of this document.
URGENT !! GET LINE PROTECTED.
I urgently suggest, that if you are Un-DACed and you are happy with the speed of connection
to your ISP, contact BT right NOW and get a new Contract or get some sort of protection notification from them
that states your line is to be used for both Voice and Digital (modem/Computer/ISP) use. If you are happy with
your current Un-daced line there maybe no need to get a ISDN line what-so-ever !! Just ensure that you have that
new contract (or what-ever) that covers you for Computer/Digital/Modem use. If you do not do this, BT can do anything
they like with your line, which includes: giving your un-Daced line to someone else for computer use, or what-ever,
and/or placing you on a DAC, 2 user, system.. which is exactly what they did to me. Remember, your original contract
only covers 'Voice', so GET THE NEW CONTRACT TO PROTECT YOUR LINE.... NOW !! OR GET BT TO NOTIFY ALL DEPARTMENTS
THAT THE LINE IS TO BE ALSO USED FOR COMPUTER !! Make sure that BT can not come along at a later date and muck
about with your line.
What about the 2 line offer for the voice/internet. What system does that use? Is it possible with the DAC ? The nswer is NO !!!
The ISDN line could be the very Un-DACed line you are using, providing that it meets the criteria laid down by BT. Funny that. The very same Un-DACed line ? IF you have a DAC unit fitted to your line then ISDN is not possible. Period ! Why? DAC is unsuitable for digital use ! This proves that BT are well aware about the short comings of the DAC unit despite the comments made by the West Midlands, Wales and the West, complaints manager !
BABT approved sticker.
This sticker has a large Green dot with the folowing text.....
'APPROVED for connection to telecommunictions systems specified in the instructions for use subject to the conditions
set out in them.'
If you have a modem or any device with a BABT 'approved' sticker, its not worth a light !!!. That sticker guarantees
only a BABT 'standard' and nothing to do with BT or any other service provider. Infact, according to BABTs engineers,
BT do not have to comply 'IN ANY FORM' or provide any form of service for that device. A BABT sticker does not
form any guarantee that any device is suitable for BT use or will operate as stated within the Instructions of
that device on BT systems. The stickers relate to the standard BABT set for either UK or Europian, nothing more
or less. The Numbers refer to manufacturer, type of network and so on. What a CON !!!! Remember, as far as I am
aware, no one is informed of this fact. Most Retailers and Consumers certainly assume that BABT approved devices
are approved for BT use. Ask them and see. Remember if a device is sold to you as 'BT approved' and it only has
the BABT sticker, its not BT aproved (OR IS IT ?). BT do not make claims that BABT devices are approved for operation
or that BT supply any form of service on their systems for those device. They only say, BABT devices must be used
on our system.
BUT WAIT...
BABT's application forms for approval on both Analog and Digital devices actually state that a Quality of service
must be given for the device that is to be used for specified networks. This is strange, as I was informed by BABT
engineers that their 'standard' has nothing to do with BT. IF YOU ARE IN ANY DOUBT CONTACT BABT ON 01932-222289
AND TALK TO AN ENGINEER. infact, get the 'approval' application forms for both Analog and Digital (they are free)
and read them for yourselves.
Customers should ask the seller of any digital device to be connected to BT lines the following questions..... 'will I have any problems using this device on my residential line' and 'will the service/connection on my residential line be fully compatable with this device and its use.' and 'is it approved for BT and its network'. If the reply is 'Yes' or 'Absolutly' and you can not get that product to operate correctly on that network/telephone line etc, then let the 'Trade and Standards' people know. Remember, I was told by the West Midlands/Wales and the West, Complaints Manager, that BT do not approve any digital device or gurantee any quality of service on their network for digital devices with the exception of ISDN. If BT or anyone else approves the device for use on any given service, that includes BTs own shops, and the service for the use of that device is causing consern, or you can not get a refund, then report it to the 'Trade and Standards' on 01905 765373 and get advice. The telephone number may differ according to your area. You have 'Consumer' rights and they will be able to asist you.
Uk....OFTEL Site at www.oftel.co.uk
Uk....OFTEL Complaints to....crs.oftel@gtnet.gov.uk
Oftel, by law, has to keep a register of all BABT 'approved' manufacturers and devices which you have the right
to view. Contact them on 0845-7145000 (local rate). Remember to ask 'what network' the devices are approved to
opperate on.
Did you know.......That BT is only under contract in the UK to provide 'Voice' connections
only ! That BT can do almost anything to your lines without contacting you. Did you know that BT does not have
to provide any form of 'standard' on their network, just supply it. Did you know that BT makes no gurantees of
'Service' or 'Supply' on any digital systems, with the exception of ISDN lines. Its about time that OFTEL stopped
sitting on its 'BUT' and got things changed !! After all, OFTEL was the one to issue the licence in the first place
back in 1985 (around then). Oftel is suposed to regulate BT. Oftel also is suposed to protect the consumers rights.
No other company would be allowed to operate in this way, so why is BT ? Why is the consumer not being protected
by Oftel ?
In 1995 (UK) there were about 110,000 residential connections to the Internet. In 1998 there was about 1,800,000
residential. 1999 figures are not yet available. BT is fully aware of what is going on, both for residential users
and the industry as a whole ! The projected growth rate is estimated to be around 800% per year, that's well over
50,000,000 users by the year 2002 (if we survive the millenium). BT and all the growth companies in the 'World'
are fully aware of the fantactic growth in both digitial and the Internet scene, since 1995. So why are the telephone
lines digital quality so poor ? Answer: In my opinion it's a lack of investment throughout the country and an obsession
with large profit margins. With the Internet, people want speed and reliability. With the DAC system and some antiquated
'Voice' telephone lines, owning a fast modem is a waste of time and money, both in the cost of purchasing the modem
and the costs of telephone call charges. In truth, you may never connect up for any reasonable period of time unless
you pay a lot more for special lines. With more and more people 'logging on', you can expect things to get slower
and slower while the telephone bills grow higher and higher with longer periods of being on-line. Great for ISP
and Line Rental companies, but very bad for the consumer. ISP and Telephone line rental companies must invest in
the best possible, not only for their future but for the continuing growth of the industry. Why are they waiting?
Who knows. All I can see, is that the public is being Conned, one way or another. BT, by the very fact of putting
you on a DAC unit, may denigh you access, or cause more problems connecting to ISPS. Being DACed removes choice
of having Computer or ISDN lines, especially if no other spare lines are available. If you were not DACed in the
first place you were more than likely to have a prity good connection (under cirtain conditions). But the moment
they put you on a DAC unit, you have problems, to say the least. Poor connections to ISPs, if at all, and no way
you can be placed onto ISDN line if a DAC unit is fitted(unless spare lines are available). If BT is using DAC
to double the line capacity and knowing the problems that it causes, despite the known growth in residential use
for digital ISP connections, proves that something is not right with the way BT operate.
Out of interest, did you know that AOL (a Multi-Billion Dollor Company ) does not pay TAXES in the UK. Why ? If you have the answer please let us know.
The people who write the 'Virus' software are very misguided. Their general argument is that they create this stuff to prove that software is badly written and open to Abuse. However, these people then circulate it 'publicly' creating the 'ABUSE' themselves. This in turn only causes serious problems to members of the public, who, having had to 'scrimp and save' to purchase the equipment and software in the first place, now find themselves with some serious problems both at home on their systems and quite possibly with their Bank Accounts etc. The very people claiming to be helping the industry are the people creating the problem. They just sit back and do nothing. Let's face it, if these individuals want to help, they would be dealing with the companies directly and with some sort of dialogue. Naturally, they don't. Just like a 'poisoner', they introduce the toxin and sit back and gloat. However, they always have the 'anti-toxin' for themselves. It makes you think, doesn't it ?
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Useful telephone numbers.(UK)
Oftel = 0845 7145000 (local rate)
Oftel = 0171 6348700
DTI = 0171 2155000
Office of Fair Trading = 0171 2118000
Trade and Standards = 01905 765373 west midlands. Please check for your local offices.
The AA = 0990 500600
The RAC = 0990 313131
If you have some interesting information that people should be made aware of, then please E-Mail me with it. I will sort it all out.